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CaffeinatedLemur: heya IQ

All_Mankind: what's cookin

CaffeinatedLemur: not much

All_Mankind: i'm playing Perpetuum

All_Mankind: it's like going back in time ten years and playing an Eve Online beta with robots instead of space

All_Mankind: okay, instead of spaceships

All_Mankind: http://cannonbarrage.tumblr.com/post/98146767698

All_Mankind: "I soon realized Mr Kojima was serious": Metal Gear behind the scenes

CaffeinatedLemur: Mr Kojima would like your spine, he is serious

All_Mankind: he wants it for electrolytes

CaffeinatedLemur: nanomachines sone

CaffeinatedLemur: ok brb]=

All_Mankind: i'll be here waiting for the factory to finish building my quest item

All_Mankind: oh wow, Bruce Wayne's parents cosplayers

CaffeinatedLemur: poormans breakfast today

DoktorNik: love the new comic by featherweight_

CaffeinatedLemur: he is magic man

All_Mankind: the Avatar has been reincarnated at least 1000 times, right? someone says something to that effect in The Last Airbender, i'm sure

CaffeinatedLemur: something like that

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All_Mankind: assuming a low average lifespan of 100 years, it would mean the recorded history of their world goes back at least twice as far as our species

adi_pie: All_Mankind, you're assuming that they even remember all of their history.

ParanoidRabbit: low average lifespan of 100 years? what earth do you live on? O-o

All_Mankind: many Avatars lived for several hundred years

adi_pie: In the show the Avatar was usually quite long lived.

ParanoidRabbit: oh, the avatar's age, yeah okey. I'll be quiet

adi_pie: By the way, what brought htis one, All_Mankind?

adi_pie: this on*

All_Mankind: and at least the Avatar him/herself would remember everything, it seems like an obvious step to keep records

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All_Mankind: it would be hard to find the avatar or even guess there was one unless you had a somewhat organized world with shared histories

adi_pie: All_Mankind, going by what I remember being told about the second season of Korra, the first Avatar wwas born about 10.000 years before that shows timeline.

All_Mankind: yeah, i heard that

adi_pie: I still have to watch seasons 2 and 3, and soon 4, of Korra.

All_Mankind: more evidence Korra screws up everything cool about the original show i guess

adi_pie: Why? Because they put a date on it?

All_Mankind: an unimpressive date

All_Mankind: that doesn't even seem to make sense

adi_pie: How old are you? 10.000 years of uninterrupted reincarnations is greatly impressive. Countries barely survive a few hundred in our world.

All_Mankind: it's about the same age as our civilization

ParanoidRabbit: do we even have any reliable history from that long ago?

adi_pie: Our civilization? It wasn't till a feww years ago that we barely had any writing on the planet that old.

All_Mankind: i much prefer to think the awesome balancing power of the avatar has resulted in a society that manifestly has worked for over 200 000 years

adi_pie: And changed so little in that time?

All_Mankind: the earliest evidence of permanent settlements goes back about 10 000 years

adi_pie: 10000 years seems like a good timeline from mud huts to industrial revolution.

All_Mankind: a generous interpretation of "civilization" i guess

adi_pie: 200k is getting into Star Wars style stagnation.

ParanoidRabbit: heck, warhammer 40k is more truthful in that case...

All_Mankind: the Australian aborigines were pretty stagnated, for 30-40 000 years years

All_Mankind: it's an important part of a real long term system

ParanoidRabbit: how do you figure that aborigines have been around for three to four times longer than the first permanent settlements?

All_Mankind: cave paintings, oral histories

All_Mankind: some more complicated studies about changes in the ecosystem

adi_pie: Well, modrn Humans left Africa almost 125.000 years ago, settlements in Australia aren't that far fetched.

ParanoidRabbit: and it would be unimpressive if the avatar came around about 10 000 years ago, because we've been around longer then that? when in avatar history there were cities and spirits roaming the world?

All_Mankind: less impressive than the story we were told at first, anyway

ParanoidRabbit: considering the spirits, I find it impressive that there are humans at all... but that's something else

ParanoidRabbit: I missed the beginning of the conversation. would you mind repeating how long that has been?

adi_pie: I don't remember there ever being a mention of a timeline for the Avatar first appearing that was over 10K years in length.

adi_pie: At least, bnot in Airbender.

All_Mankind: there was the mention that there's been over 1000 avatars

All_Mankind: who likely lived more than 100 years on average

ParanoidRabbit: ah, well. I can buy that, in that case

adi_pie: I really do't remember the "1000 avatars " thing, thousand year old tradition maybe.

Omnipotenttrevor: It was a single line by Roku

adi_pie: But, hey, it's just a show, retcons can be made.

ParanoidRabbit: 100 years on average seem a bit steep though. I bet that it took quite long before things started to settle decently, there were probably a time where the avatar had, well, short cycles

Omnipotenttrevor: Who said he learned firebending a thousand times before, and will learn it again

ParanoidRabbit: ah, then it sounds like an hyperbole as well

adi_pie: One would also have to question how Roku knew that seing as we are never shown that Avatars can speak to any of their more distant predecessors.

adi_pie: Aang only spoke to about 4 of them. And Korra from what I've seen has only spoken to Aang.

All_Mankind: it would be strange that they can draw on all the power of their predecessors if they didn't also have their wisdom

adi_pie: I would still go by the "Hyperbole" route, Roku seems like the type.

Omnipotenttrevor: The Avatar didn't seem to know about the portals and convergence, after all this time. Seems like it would've been an important thing to pass along if they could remember back that far

Omnipotenttrevor: Yeah, Adi, that seems likely

All_Mankind: how reincarnation usually works, the shaman's power DOUBLES with every generation, since he can reflect on the wisdom of his predecessor reflecting on the wisdom of his predecessors

adi_pie: The previous four Avatars also didn't tell Aang squat about Energybending, or whatever the Lion Turtle taught him.

All_Mankind: which i find entertaining

Omnipotenttrevor: I think people have also tried counting the statues in the room of past Avatars to estimate how many lifetimes back they go

All_Mankind: i like to call it spiritbending

adi_pie: Where the people doing that 100% sure that the Japanese animators were communicating perfectly well with the show-runners and "lore-keepers", Omnipotenttrevor?

All_Mankind: so yeah, it's nice to leave some things to the imagination

ParanoidRabbit: I like the name spiritbending. It kinda implies that it takes effort doing more complicated things, like going back far in the ancestory, but that it is possible.

DoktorNik: I was hoping Jim would of tackled the whoel Double Fine Snatch and grab

All_Mankind: (and never watch Korra)

adi_pie: I will watch Korra, I'm just waiting on Season 4 to come out so I can binge watch all the way from 2 til the end.

ParanoidRabbit: I liked Korra. More the fact that there's a strong female hero, than it being a continuence of Airbenders.

ParanoidRabbit: The fact that she's coloured is just nice extra tipping.

All_Mankind: going by season 1, i wouldn't call Korra strong

All_Mankind: headstrong, maybe

ParanoidRabbit: Strong personallity

ParanoidRabbit: but yeah, she gets whopped around a lot

adi_pie: I have heard she gets better as an adult going forward, that and her teaming up with Asami has me curious.

All_Mankind: it seemed they were trying really hard to make her the exact opposite of Aang in every way while ignoring that almost everything about Aang made him a fantastic character and a great person

DoktorNik goes grabs another cup of coffee and returns to watching lectures online.

ParanoidRabbit: I would say that they have left a lot of the Airbenders series behind, and tried to do something else instead. something new.

MetricFurlong: All_Mankind: That would require Aang to be a fantastic character

adi_pie: We never did get to see Aang as a teenager though, and especially not one that had been raised by calm, peace-loving monks his whole life.

MetricFurlong: (also, hello chat)

ParanoidRabbit: Hiya!

adi_pie: Hey, MetricFurlong

DoktorNik: heya metric

All_Mankind: i figure he'd be a lot like me as a teenager

adi_pie: I do like it more that they tried something new, and failed (in some people's eyes), than just rehash Airbender with a female protagonist.

All_Mankind: i was born 40 years old, you see. . .

DoktorNik: Ah, so you were a teen in the late 70's, early 80's?

adi_pie: Did you also spring forth fully decked in armor from your father's forehead, because I think I know your siste, All_Mankind.

DoktorNik: SO you actually had a great decade to be a teen in

ParanoidRabbit: People are of split opinions, that is quite fine.

Arakasi01: Going to be streaming Wasteland 2 shortly if anyone's interested.

DoktorNik: ooooh

DoktorNik: i may have to come bug you arakasi

adi_pie: Wait, did Wasteland 2 come out already?

Arakasi01: Yup

ParanoidRabbit: May one have a link to watch it?

adi_pie: I should check my Steam Library more often.

Arakasi01: http://www.twitch.tv/arakasi01

ParanoidRabbit: Thank you!

DoktorNik: I'm tempted to buy it because it could actually be great example of crowd funding working (if i

All_Mankind: sure, it's a good thing they tried, better than just leaving the original show as a standalone masterpiece. . .it's still there and still great, after all

Omnipotenttrevor: I feel like the TLOK/TLA comparisons might have an element of nostalgia in them at this point too.

ParanoidRabbit: Agreed, All_mankind

All_Mankind: i watched TLA first when i was 30

adi_pie: I watched it when I was 19, that doesn't mean I don't like Korra.

All_Mankind: i can imagine people who grew up with it get nostalgic though

adi_pie: Considering it was meant and shown as a children's show, I'd imagine that is most of its audience, All_Mankind

adi_pie: We might be outliers of that bell-curve.

MetricFurlong: I dunno, it's got a fair late teens/ early 20s following

All_Mankind: i wonder what we'd have been called if we went the brony route and tried to take it away from the kids for ourselves

MetricFurlong: I've never understood why, but it does have that

All_Mankind: airbrothers?

adi_pie: Kegbenders?

adi_pie: Beerbenders

PMAvers: I was under the impression that was the reason for the move to online-only, since it's audience wasn't meshing up with Nick's traditional audience.'

MetricFurlong: yeah, a lot of the audience seem to overlap with the 'dubs-only Anime' crowd

All_Mankind: television is confusing me these days

adi_pie: PMAvers, that and the fact that Nickelodeon probably couldn't think of any other way to screw Korra over any more than it already had.

Omnipotenttrevor: Nick's current scheduling situation is weird. They're doing similar with TMNT

PMAvers: Well, yes, Nick does seem to have a hate-on for anything original or quality.

All_Mankind: they're doing a Powers show on Playstation Network. . .Community goes to Yahoo

All_Mankind old

adi_pie: I'm pretty sure the Avatar creators have made their final show for Nickelodeon.

Omnipotenttrevor: There was no set schedule, and the last for eps of TMNT, including the finale, premiered online like a week or so early.

MetricFurlong: PMAvers: another TMNT series constitutes original?

Omnipotenttrevor: last four*

PMAvers: Maybe not, but they sure seem to enjoy messing with it.

All_Mankind: anyone cares/knows about this Powers TV show?

adi_pie: I know of it, but no actual details though. I watch so little TV these days.

MetricFurlong: never even heard of it, sorry

adi_pie: If a show is interesting I just wait for it/a season to end and watch it then.

All_Mankind: here is a picture of the guy from District 9 posing like a superhero in cop costume with a woman who looks like a woman SWAT officer might: http://www.blackfilm.com/read/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Powers-Sharlto-Copley-and-Susan-Heyward.jpg

MetricFurlong: (although I don't think I've watched TV in a couple of years now)

All_Mankind: so many interesting things about that picture. . .i don't think we need any reading materials to get a better picture of what show this is

adi_pie: So Powers is basically a police procedural in a Superhero world

adi_pie: It seems interesting in that respect.

All_Mankind: i only watch tv socially, myself

All_Mankind: yeah, well, we call them "superheroes" as a convenient shorthand

All_Mankind: it's weird when you think about it

All_Mankind: you've got people with powers that defy all laws of physics, and they decide to call themselves superheroes and fly around fighting fires, beating up muggers and such. . .

adi_pie: I believe the main characters are normal police detectives, so basically Renee Montoya and Harvey Bullock the TV series.

adi_pie: Even though a lot of them aren't particularly heroic, when you think about it.

All_Mankind: they are going in a different direction from the comic, so maybe, but to my knowledge at least one of them is a normal guy who's three million years old. . .

All_Mankind: the ellipses are taking over. . .the old ones are stirring. . .

All_Mankind turns into Lovecraft

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MetricFurlong: hax!

adi_pie: Don't forget to restore your HP, mister Lovecraft, you won't last long without hit points.

All_Mankind: i spent them all to cast the binding spell

adi_pie: Lovecraft, protagonist of Persona 3.

All_Mankind: i read an interesting comic book that suggested Lovecraft's whole body of work was a desperate attempt to keep it from being true

MetricFurlong: Lovecraft, side-quest battle arena organiser in Shadow Hearts 3

adi_pie: I've always wanted to play Shadow Hearts, they sound rather demented in some aspects.

All_Mankind: so in this fiction he wrote about Necronomicon, a fictional book, to reduce its reality

MetricFurlong: adi_pie: the first 2 games are really good

MetricFurlong: third was dissapointing

All_Mankind: i think that's the opposite of meta

MetricFurlong: but yes, the SH games tended to be a bit nuts

MetricFurlong: that was part of the charm

MetricFurlong: also the first game has one of the worst dub-jobs ever

MetricFurlong: but thankfully very little of the dialogue is voiced

adi_pie: Oh, the lovely days at the beginning of console voice acting.

MetricFurlong: yeah

MetricFurlong: pretty much

MetricFurlong: the first game also looks very much the 'very early PS2 game' that it is

MetricFurlong: which might not have mattered so much if it hadn't been released a few months before FFX

MetricFurlong: the hype of which completely buried it

MetricFurlong: which is probably why not many people played it

adi_pie: Eh, technically proficient graphics don't mean much to me, good design and art styles are higher up on my list of things I look for in a game.

MetricFurlong: yeah, I'd agree

MetricFurlong: it does have some fairly interesting/nuts monster designs

adi_pie: Though I do play a lot of older games, so that might just be a defense mechanism my eyes enforced on my brain.

MetricFurlong: no, as I said I'd agree

MetricFurlong: aesthetics > fidelty

MetricFurlong: and design matters a lot in the former

adi_pie: Especially after a few years have passed,

MetricFurlong: yes, exactly

Nightvalien28: just want to say that you guys make the best breakfast reading

MetricFurlong: photorealism dates incredibly quickly, whereas stylised stuff can last for a long time

adi_pie: Happy to oblige. Come back later for a discussion on why peanut butter and jelly is not a good combination.

MetricFurlong: Nightvalien28: thanks

MetricFurlong: it's one of the weird aspects of game design, the push for 'photorealistic' graphics

MetricFurlong: because hardly anyone seems to care about it in film/tv animation

All_Mankind: graphical fidelity is a handy substitute for creativity

adi_pie: Take Okami and Crysis, they both came out at about the same time, I still find Okami inifnitely more visually appealing.

All_Mankind: i figure we have a few too many engineers designing games and not enough painters

All_Mankind: so to speak

Nightvalien28: also too many fustrated movie makers that failed in holywood

adi_pie: Yeah, we have a lot of people that make pretty games, but not enough people that can make beautiful ones.

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All_Mankind: why can't failed filmmakers settle for making uninventive comic books like they used to? it's much cheaper and easier to ignore

adi_pie: More money in video games.

Nightvalien28: ^

All_Mankind: the profit margins are probably tighter though

All_Mankind: you need one person and a photocopier to make comics, maybe a commissioned artist if you want to spend dozens of dollars. . .

adi_pie: They should just amke Horror movies, even the crappy ones make a few times their budget these days.

MetricFurlong: that's been the case for a while now

MetricFurlong: hell, just look at the Blair Witch Project

Nightvalien28: *barf*

BaronVonRatsworth: Did someone mention comic books?

All_Mankind: Blair Witch Project happened before twitter though

All_Mankind: that might have been me, Baron

All_Mankind: i'm a comic book enthusiast

adi_pie: I rather enjoy comics/ graphic novels too, though it's hard to keep up with everything going on in that field.

MetricFurlong: All_Mankind: indeed it did. Didn't stop it making over 100 million dollars

All_Mankind: yeah, it's somehow remained an underground medium while talking pictures, home video and videogames made it big time

All_Mankind wonders what the comic book industry would look like if you had people somehow sinking nine figure budgets into the big franchises

MetricFurlong: I would say that's because 'mainstream' comics are a very insular set of stories within one genre feature a cast that's largely been unchanged for decades

MetricFurlong: *featuring

MetricFurlong: mainstream american comics, anyway

adi_pie: Comics are basically books with pictures, it's hard for them to ever satisfy a need for entertainment in the same way as those other more visual media do.

adi_pie: That and what MetricFurlong said.

All_Mankind: i read a lot of European comics, small, standalone products that basically could be like movies you can read while riding the bus

All_Mankind: there isn't really anything standing in the way for making really big budget spectacle comic books that would amuse millions of people, except there's not really anything to spend all that money on

adi_pie: I do enjoy standalone stories much more than the neverending sprawls some comics are.

olivias_bulge: hm i never got into comics, I always felt single issues were frustratingly short, and the universes took too many liberties (killing and re-killing characters, extra universes etc)I have liked graphic novels, or trade books with an entire arc in them.

All_Mankind: yeah, i really only read comics that have an end in mind when they start

adi_pie: That's basically why I stick to arcs or standalone stories.

BaronVonRatsworth watches debate and noms popcorn

adi_pie: What debate? We're all basically agreeing, Baron.

olivias_bulge:

adi_pie: We need a Devil's Advocate in here, on the double.

All_Mankind: the Brittish invasion is still going on, with great works being made by master writers like Neil Gaiman, Alan Mopore, Warren Ellis, Grant Morrison

All_Mankind: Moore

ParanoidRabbit: Yea, the sandman series were amazing

All_Mankind: it still is, if you ask me :3

BaronVonRatsworth: Debate...friendly chatting, it's all the same

adi_pie: I still have yet to read the Sandman books, all i've read from that corner of the DC universe are the Death books, which I quite liked.

All_Mankind: i hope they put out a collected edition of Overture soon that i can read

ParanoidRabbit: I got it standing proudly in the bookshelf

MetricFurlong: yeah, I've largely stayed out of 'standard superhero comics' - mostly for the same reasons I don't watch Soap Operas

All_Mankind: it's hopeless to import those monthly pamphlets overseas

adi_pie: I honestly only read mainstream Marvel/DC stuff that has been recommended to me, or that has writers I know and appreciate.

MetricFurlong: the only real exception, if you can call it that, being Watchmen

All_Mankind: let me compile a list of single volume works by unknown authors from my bookshelf

MetricFurlong: I have read a slightly ridiculous number of webcomics over the years though

adi_pie: Like Rick Remender's work on X-Force a few years back, which I loved, and which made me interested in Deadpool as a character.

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All_Mankind: Blue is the Warmest Color, Daytripper, okay that was fewer than i thought

MetricFurlong: not even Persepolis?

All_Mankind: but anyway, Daytripper is my recommendation for anyone who thinks comic books are all celebrity authors and eighty year old men in tights

All_Mankind: i borrowed Persepolis at the library

adi_pie: Being a celebrity isn't necessarily a bad thing.

MetricFurlong: Daytripper has probably the least informative wiki page I've seen in months

All_Mankind: no, but it will make some people think you just read things because they have a familiar name on them

MetricFurlong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytripper_(DC_Comics)

MetricFurlong: I've never really seen the point in shaming people for that

MetricFurlong: if they're reading it and it's good and they're enjoying it, why does it matter how they found it?

adi_pie: I have the movie Persepolis, it's on my short list. I might try the book afterwards.

adi_pie: People that shame other people over what they read, are generally assholes or idiots.

MetricFurlong: I've only seen the film, but I'd recommend that

All_Mankind: i don't think the point is shaming but making excuses not to read things

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adi_pie: All_Mankind, you haven't met some of the high-and-mighty book snobs I have then.

MetricFurlong: side note: Persepolis was the second animated film to be nominated for the Palm D'or at Cannes

MetricFurlong: ('internet prize' to anyone who can tell me which was the first, without looking it up)

MetricFurlong: All_Mankind: what do you mean? People not reading something because the writer is well-known, or people being reluctant to read something because the writer isn't well-known

adi_pie: I do know Waltz with Bashir was also nominated at the Cannes Film Festival, though I think it came out after Persepolis.

MetricFurlong: it did come out after, yes

All_Mankind: was it The Thief and the Cobbler?

MetricFurlong: I would also recommend it as well, if for no other reason than it's an animated documentary

MetricFurlong: All_Mankind: I don't think so, no

adi_pie: Thief and the Cobbler was never finished I thought.

adi_pie: that horrible version that came out with all the unnecessary voice overs doesn't count.

All_Mankind: is any work of art really finished?

adi_pie: Yes, when the creator stops working on it.

MetricFurlong: (if you want a hint: it's Japanese)

All_Mankind: it did stop at a very unpolished point to be sure

adi_pie: It wasn't a Ghibli movie was it?

MetricFurlong: no

All_Mankind: Grave of the Fireflies?

All_Mankind: probably not

adi_pie: End of Evangelion, surely.

BaronVonRatsworth: The thief and the cobbler is a very...very strange movie if you watch the original(ish and unfinished) silent version

MetricFurlong: bit later than End of Eva

MetricFurlong: (second hint: it's a sequel)

adi_pie: Huh, that's a surprise, generally sequels aren't as good as the originals.

MetricFurlong: BaronVonRatsworth: I've heard about it, not much beyond 'the released cut wasn't very good' though

MetricFurlong: adi_pie: there's some debate as to whether this is as good as the original too

adi_pie: The released version did have voice work done by Vincent Price so at elast parts of it were woderful.

adi_pie: The only Japanese animated movie sequels I know of, really want to watch, and come to mind right now are the Madoka movies, though I doubt it was any of those.

MetricFurlong: it wasn't, no

MetricFurlong: (I am currently watching the Madoka series for the frist time though - it's good stuff)

All_Mankind: was it Ghost in the Shell 2?

MetricFurlong: ding ding ding!

MetricFurlong: we have a winner

BaronVonRatsworth: Oh Madoka....that series has feels

All_Mankind champion

adi_pie: Huh, that was my second guess, but I had no clue how good or bad it was.

MetricFurlong hands All_Mankind a freshly wrapped Internet

adi_pie: Some opinions I've heard of it aren't particularly nice.

BaronVonRatsworth: I think you can find it on youtube if you are interested. The released version is...kinda terrible. The not released version is like an acid trip.

All_Mankind: aah, i love the smell of fresh internet in the timeless void

All_Mankind: it smells like fresh baked bread, oddly

MetricFurlong: I would say Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence (not to be confused with Ghost in the shell 2.0, which is the 'special edition' of the first film) is about as good as the first - although fairly distinct

adi_pie: I might rewatch Madoka vefore I watch the movies, that series really stuck with me. Good writing will do that.

All_Mankind: the animated GitS never grabbed me like the comics did

adi_pie: Well, GitS 2 is on my short-list anyway so I might just move it closer to the top.

MetricFurlong: I'd actually say the first film is one of the exmaples of an adaptation that surpasses the original

All_Mankind: and Man-Machine Interface quickly lost its luster

adi_pie: I didn't really like the manga of GitS, the movie and the tv series I enjoy much more.

MetricFurlong: Man-machine interface is garbage

adi_pie: That one I haven't seen.

MetricFurlong: it's the sequel manga

MetricFurlong: well "sequel£

All_Mankind: i did enjoy it the first time i read it, but then it was like "that sure was a lot of crotches at the end there" followed by "oh so Shirow has stopped making comics and only draws porn now, that's not at all surprising"

MetricFurlong: to be fair, that was clear by chapter 3 of the original manga

MetricFurlong: which could be accurately subtitled "Motoko makes a sex tape"

adi_pie: I didn't make it that far into the manga, or if I did, I don't remember any of it.

MetricFurlong: none of which has any bearing on anything else that happens in the story

All_Mankind: i only read the censored version, thankfully

BaronVonRatsworth: Wait what

All_Mankind: of course i read all about it in the local gaming magazine

All_Mankind: how Motoko invented cybersex before most of us knew what the internet was

MetricFurlong: really, my biggest issues with the overal problems with the manga can be best exemplified by one line

adi_pie: The reverse of my opinion on the GitS franchise, is Akira, where I quite like the manga, but found the movie to be visually interesting though otherwise rather meh.

All_Mankind: huh, that's just how i feel about the GitS movie

All_Mankind: Akira too, though

adi_pie: Opinions are like assholes, everybody has their own.

MetricFurlong: a 4th-wall breaking line which goes something like "I was going to draw Togusa suiting up in preparation for the next scene but I couldn't be bothered so just pretend I did"

adi_pie: Can't remember where I heard that one, but it's obstinately stuck to my brain now.

MetricFurlong: yeah, Akira's not a bad film, but it's rather more famous for being a watershed than it's actual quality

All_Mankind: opinions are like butts, divided down the middle and smelly

MetricFurlong: (sort of a FFVII situation, really)

adi_pie: MetricFurlong, aside from being rather patronising, that line is also wholly unnecessary, just show the next scene, you don't have to draw attention to your laziness.

MetricFurlong: and yet, it is there

MetricFurlong: because Shirow is incredibly self-indulgent

MetricFurlong: really the tone of the manga is weirdly comedic a lot of the time

adi_pie: He also has a rather high opinion of himself as well, if he included that line.

All_Mankind: i like those comedy moments

All_Mankind: such surrealism

MetricFurlong: eh, I felt the lack of them was better for the film

MetricFurlong: and also for Kusanagi as a character

MetricFurlong: in as much as she has one

MetricFurlong: (which she generally doesn't outside of the films and 2nd Gig SAC)

All_Mankind: yeop

All_Mankind: it works in the very long-form manga though

All_Mankind: the sidetracks and irrelevant, irreverent bits, not Motoko's character

MetricFurlong: manga she's very much just 'Shirow's Fantasy Girlfirend"

All_Mankind: although when you see enough of her you can sort of deduce some faint traces of character

adi_pie: You want surreal? Watch the new LRR sketch.

All_Mankind: nice, timely reference

MetricFurlong: while 1st gig SAC has the problem of the writers not having much to work with for her without the puppetmaster

MetricFurlong: (although it does have Batou, Togusa and Aramki to fall back-on character wise, none of whom have much going for them in the Manga)

MetricFurlong: yeah, new LRR was good

MetricFurlong: very Paul

adi_pie: "Sorry to interrupt" your conversation.

All_Mankind: i'd say she's very utilitarian, the kind of person who saves kids from being ghost hacked and then scolds them for daring to be free of their hellhole orphanage/trade school

All_Mankind: daring to DREAM of being free i should say

MetricFurlong: yeah, but the manga version lacks any real internal conflict

All_Mankind: well, if you want to read into things badly enough

All_Mankind: when i was 16 i thought it was interesting how Motoko always looks away when she executes someone

RebelliousUno: I almost want a bonus video without the interruptions

RebelliousUno: for The true vision

MetricFurlong: best illustration of which being that the 'I might not even be the real Kusanagi, just a copy' is something she mentions casually and off-hand to one of her friends/sex-tape-co-stars almost as a joke

All_Mankind: she's certainly a very boring person

MetricFurlong: contrast with the film, where that's part of an existential crises that's clearly eating at her, and is strongly implied to have been doing so for a while

MetricFurlong: which makes sense, because that's exactly the sort of thing that would affect a philosophically-minded in that situation

MetricFurlong: *philosophically-minded person

All_Mankind: the kind who merges her personality with a rogue AI at the drop of a hat just because the hope that it might lead to an interesting change for humanity is to her worth risking everything including her future and her sense of self

All_Mankind: it might be consistent in both versions, just more obviously expressed in the anime

All_Mankind: working hard every moment of every day is not an uncommon way for the philosophically minded to avoid dealing with an existential crisis

MetricFurlong: again, contrast with the film, where the merger is itself seen as a resolution to the aformentioned philosophical point: she would be a different person afterwards, but that would be true even if she didn't

All_Mankind: mm-hmm

MetricFurlong: plus the fact that if she doesn't, they're both going to be shot to *** by snipers

MetricFurlong: which will also happen even if she does

MetricFurlong: it's just that by doing so both have the opportunity to survive

All_Mankind: i just recalled this one line in the manga where Motoko mentions she hates rain because of the hollow sound it makes on her shell, implying she worries about being a hollow person

All_Mankind: maybe not exactly an existential crisis, but it's showing signs in that direction wouldn't you say

MetricFurlong: eh, if you want to go that far you could argue it, but it's not reflected much in the general story

MetricFurlong: I mean if you like the manga more, that's cool

MetricFurlong: just in my mind I do consider the film the better version

MetricFurlong: (although I will admit to some bias there, considering it's one of my favourite films in general(

All_Mankind: it has its points

All_Mankind: i wouldn't argue the manga is comparable in its strength of characterization

MetricFurlong: there's a probably a fair bit of taste difference involved, the film is after all very much Mamoru Oshii's project

MetricFurlong: whereas the manga is Shirow being Shirow

MetricFurlong: hence the fairly marked differences in style and tone between them

All_Mankind: i wanna watch the movie now

All_Mankind: and with my modded PS2 that plays import DVDs, i can!

MetricFurlong: success

MetricFurlong: just as long as it's not 2.0

All_Mankind: never heard of it before, but i'm curious now

MetricFurlong: 2.0 was the 'special edition' version, which 're-did' a bunch of things from the original

MetricFurlong: some of the effects team at Lucasfilm were involved

MetricFurlong: and is pretty much what you'd expect from when you put 'special edition' and 'lucasfilm' in the same sentence

MetricFurlong: (not saying they're to blame for it, just that most of the changes were not for the better)

MetricFurlong: Alex made a video illustrating one of his complaints about it, I believe

adi_pie: 2.0 ain't that bad, it's just that it changes things that were in no need of any change.

MetricFurlong: so, like the star wars special editions

adi_pie: pretty much.

MetricFurlong: here's Alex's thing http://voxlunch.tumblr.com/post/96775013873/ghost-in-the-shell-original-vs-2-0-foley-tank

MetricFurlong: incidentally, small bit of trivia, the guy who did most of the animation work on that scene -Mitsuo Iso - is also the man who did most of the animation of Asuka's Eva fight sequence in End of Evangelion

All_Mankind: i might have guessed

All_Mankind fries onions, tears up

All_Mankind: i think i'm actually allergic to the stuff in onions that make you cry, it affects me from across the room

MetricFurlong: sounds unpleasant

All_Mankind: nothing that can't be fixed with a long hard cry

MetricFurlong: hey, whatever works for you

CaffeinatedLemur tumbles into chat place

MetricFurlong: hey Lemur

All_Mankind points and laughs at the falling guy

MetricFurlong: oh, your name reminds me: I need to make some more tea

CaffeinatedLemur: I think irl my back is not doing so happily

All_Mankind: i saw an old lady fall over and walked twenty meters out of my way to help her on her feet today, i had to balance my charitability a little

CaffeinatedLemur: !nextfan

LRRbot: Next scheduled fan stream: CantWearHats Stream at Mon 11:45 AM PDT (6m from now)

CaffeinatedLemur: fair enough IQ

All_Mankind: my back hurts now by the way

All_Mankind: are you contagious?

CaffeinatedLemur: if I am, I blame the sea

All_Mankind: huh

BaronVonRatsworth: The sea man, it is all salty and stuff

CaffeinatedLemur: The sea, she be a cruel mistress, an I dunna wanna my final jig to be in the belly of a squid

CaffeinatedLemur: there is a song and everyhthing

All_Mankind: exciting

CaffeinatedLemur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkDwzMWG9vM

adi_pie: CaffeinatedLemur, here's a Pirate song for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ksn9zghi3o

BaronVonRatsworth: Oooh pirate music

CaffeinatedLemur: also CWH is live

CaffeinatedLemur: http://www.twitch.tv/cantwearhats

MetricFurlong: pirate songs you say? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXoZsgNHquM

BaronVonRatsworth: Mystery box he says

MetricFurlong: damn him, now I have to watch

RebelliousUno: MetricFurlong, that's the BEST version of that!

MetricFurlong: it really is, isn't it?

RebelliousUno: I hadn't seen that version before

BaronVonRatsworth: That's an...interesting song metric

BaronVonRatsworth: That accent

MetricFurlong: they're Scottish, iirc

BaronVonRatsworth: I think I'm in shock from that song. It was like being punched in the face with pirate

Anaerin: Pirate songs? Well, here we go... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G_L9tXEwmc

MetricFurlong: yeah, that's pretty much the Alestorm experience

Deimir: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (2:06 from now)

All_Mankind: so is FF15 really going to be four guys on a roadtrip in a sports car?

Ravynn: God All_Mankind I hope not, but that's sure what it looks like

CaffeinatedLemur: Could be worse

All_Mankind: i'm sad i gave up on the FF with FF13-1, so i can't boycott it again

CaffeinatedLemur: also BattleZone is silly

All_Mankind: at first i saw this picture of the party gathered at a campfire, and some caption that said making camp is going to be a big part of the game

All_Mankind: that sounds like it would be a fascinating RPG

CaffeinatedLemur: by making camp, they mean starting fires in their car

All_Mankind: imagine some fantasy characters making their way through a vast wilderness

All_Mankind: then replace those characters with some dudebros in expensive hairstyles and give them a sports car

Frage069: Hi everybody!

Anaerin: Hi Doctor Nik!

Frage069: Man that username looks familiar

CaffeinatedLemur: hey all

MetricFurlong: which one, Frage?

Anaerin: Mine?

Frage069: Oh wait it was Aneirin, so close but so different

Anaerin: I know.

Frage069: Those vowels

Frage069: So has everyone seen the sorry for interrupting?

All_Mankind: totally

MetricFurlong: yep

Anaerin: Not yet, I'm catching up with my YT activity.

All_Mankind: hypothesis: they're actually trying to make sure each Final Fantasy is the last in the series, without the investors noticing

Vidofnir_KSP: !nest!live

MetricFurlong: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (1:48 from now)

MetricFurlong: All_Mankind: quite possibly

adi_pie: All_Mankind, as an answer to your question, you can also run through the countryside on foot, or on a chocobo. Still dudes with crazy hair, though.

Atifexe: That actually seems plausible. "Maybe, if we just make it suck enough, they'll finally let it die so we can move on to new ideas..."

Frage069: I kind of liked the promo vid

adi_pie: When did you guys get to play 15? I want to know if it's good or not too, two years before it comes out.

MetricFurlong: it's certainly more comforting than the thought that they genuinely think their ideas are good

Frage069: Dudebros on a roadtrip with FF tropes

Frage069: seems decent

All_Mankind: and investors be like, "I like this character with the goatee and the spiky hair. Make more of him!"

MetricFurlong: to be fair, that does also describe Gin from Devil Survivor

All_Mankind: there's only one of him in the game, though, right?

Atifexe: I feel like they should just run a character contest. In 300 words or less, describe the appearance of the character, then, from this multiple-choice sheet, figure out his origins (Options:

TrakoGamer: lolwat, the spam I get has little stories in them now...

Atifexe: Amnesia, Orphan, Refuses to talk about it, Angsty relationship with single parent after other parent died)

Anaerin: Yeah, they're grabbing sections from random websites to try and get past spam filters.

All_Mankind: i'm guessing FF15 is going to be on PS4

MetricFurlong: Trakogamer: lucky you. Mine just says 'Free/Cheap Rolex Watches!' only with worse capitalisation

TrakoGamer: Please go away from her dark withTha Wondered how sweet = talk about her lifeÌ AStartled emma = began to make campWithout his side of them horror script right there

adi_pie: PS4 and XBone

TrakoGamer: lol

TrakoGamer: I had to gmail > view source

All_Mankind: i have no plans on getting that machine, so i have to convince myself the game sucks so i don't miss playing it

All_Mankind: that sounds reasonable, right

TrakoGamer: meh

TrakoGamer: waitc for an emulator

adi_pie: Not really, you can just skip it, without having to do the mental gymnastics.

MetricFurlong: ^

All_Mankind: where's the fun in that

adi_pie: Besides with the two big consoles being so similar to PCs, more games coming to PC is pretty much a given.

TrakoGamer: not necessarily

MetricFurlong: that also depends on you having a PC powerful enough to run those same games

MetricFurlong: which not all of us do

Zaz_TV: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (1:40 from now)

All_Mankind: but sincerely, i'm not seeing anything good coming out of a Final Fantasy game that has a lovingly rendered sports car as a fifth party member

TrakoGamer: tru dat, but xbone and ps4 is basically a HTPC

adi_pie: Hey, there's a bigger chance of that than getting a PS4 you don't want.

TrakoGamer: lmao

TrakoGamer: Nika and her friends p;layed Destiny the other day, and one said it was Halo without the story... I an see that

MetricFurlong: All_Mankind: I don't think we've seen much coming out of a Final Fantasy game in the last decade now, to be honest

TrakoGamer: heh

All_Mankind: yes, also pattern recognition

TrakoGamer: copypasta

adi_pie: 15 is a modern day setting with sci-fi elements and magic in it, which makes it instantly interesting. Whether it's good or not, I'll have to wait and see.

MetricFurlong: adi_pie: interesting is a strong word

Ravynn: Anyone know if Lambmower is around?

adi_pie: Not really.

All_Mankind: funny, those are the things that make it uninteresting to me

adi_pie: It's an incredibly vague word.

Zaz_TV: cant a word be both vague and strong?

MetricFurlong: Ravynn: haven't seen him

adi_pie: Jumping off a building is interesting because I'm curious what it would be like, I'm not going to try it anytime soon.

TrakoGamer: interest is relevant to my interests

Ravynn: MetricFurlong hmmm damn, we need more mods for the plug.dj

MetricFurlong: Zaz_TV: it can be vaguely strong, and presumably strongly vague

TrakoGamer: strong enough for a hack, but calibrated for a poet laureate

MetricFurlong: Ravynn: why, we having problems?

Zaz_TV: "this word is not well defined, but whatever it means it doesn't reflect my level of commitment"

Anaerin: metricfurlong: Yeah, we kinda are.

TrakoGamer: http://templates.mailchimp.com/resources/html-to-text/ < this is how I removed the garbage from the spam horror story

MetricFurlong: what sort of problems?

Ravynn: Eh we just have afkers who leave up short playlists in the dj queue who aren't actually there. Anaerin has taken to playing a really long silence track to keep some of them away, but we always just seem to have a couple trolls in and out all the time

All_Mankind: i mean we have seen the attempts of at least 4 previous FF games trying to include modern settings and making anachronistic, paradoxical messes that value stylish cutscenes over coherent worldbuilding or story

TrakoGamer: stylish cutscenes, see APB

Anaerin: Yup, a 10-hour version of John Cage's 4'33"

MetricFurlong: Ravynn: ah, I'd noticed some of the trolls in the past

adi_pie: All_Mankind, 4? In my head I only have 3 of 'em, 7, 8, 13.

Diserasta: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (1:33 from now)

All_Mankind: i was thinking of those and 12

adi_pie: 12 didn't feel that modern day.

MetricFurlong: Ivalice as a setting isn't that modern

All_Mankind: no, just enough of a hint of modern day to be annoying

All_Mankind: that was my impression anyway

All_Mankind: i didn't get very far into it before giving up >_>

MetricFurlong: I didn't play much of 12 either

TrakoGamer: there is this curious phenomenon regarding putting my resume on Monster. life insurance companies flood my inbox with positions and seminars, etc. I'm in IT and no sales experience

Ravynn: I wish people would respond to the gamification of plug.dj by actually getting a sense of musical taste, instead of trying to afk game the system...

adi_pie: All_Mankind, admit it, you're just a time traveller from the Renaissance and can't wait to get back to an era without so much tech.

Anaerin: ravynn: Would you like John Cage back?

Ravynn: lol

All_Mankind: mmmaybe

Diserasta: @Trakogamer Well, at least that's something. I'm lucky to get a pyramid scam in my inbox.

SirDarksun_GER: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (1:31 from now)

adi_pie: Well I put about 150 hours into FF 12 so, i might have had more experience with it than you.

Ravynn: We could switch to whole albums I suppose Anaerin

Anaerin: Okay, that works for me.

MetricFurlong: Ravynn: says the man currently playing Lifehouse

Ravynn: Shhhh MetricFurlong....Shhhh

All_Mankind: i would like FF to try to get back to its fantasy roots, maybe in a naive hope that just removing paved roads would make the games good again

Ravynn: It's better than Girl's Generation!

adi_pie: Though about 10 of those were spent tryiing to kill that damn secret boss, and at least 15 were from forgetting to turn off the PS2.

Diserasta: @Ravynn GASP

MetricFurlong: Ravynn: they're like Creed but acousitc

Ravynn throws down with Diserasta

MetricFurlong: !plugdj

LRRbot: The LRR fans are listening to music over at https://plug.dj/loadingreadylive

Diserasta: @Ravynn I do like my Kpop. Admittedly, Girls Generation isn't my favourite (that position goes to 4minute)

Ravynn: That's still a step up on Creed MetricFurlong

MetricFurlong: Ravynn: a very small step-up

MetricFurlong: one might almost say infinitesimal

All_Mankind: i like Creed

All_Mankind runs for the hills

Ravynn: I don't really have anything against kpop in general, although I find their music videos to be this weird...weird slice from like the 80s with modern production values

MetricFurlong: All_Mankind: well, somebody has to

Anubis169: Kasabian?

Anaerin: Also running for your life, all_mankind?

adi_pie: Final Fantasy has had sci-fi elements or modern day tech in them with a rather prevalent role from FF 6 onwards, and that the era with the best games in my mind. (6, 9, 10)

Diserasta: @Ravynn True enough.

All_Mankind: naturally

Okipokute: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (1:27 from now)

TrakoGamer: diserasta if you send me a dollar, I'll have a dollar, but if you get 10 people to give you a dollar, and give me half, I'll have 5!

MetricFurlong: adi_pie: yay, someone else like FF9

All_Mankind: 6 i think hits the sweet spot

Anubis169: no, you'll have 50cents

Okipokute: 6 what

Anubis169: get 10 people to give him a dollar and he gives you half of a dollar

Anubis169: you'll have half a dollar

All_Mankind: some steampunk, nothing that you can't believe people put together in a world without electricity, and barely any beaten paths between cities

MetricFurlong: lexical ambiguity!

Diserasta: @Trakogamer Yup. I once got offered a position. Go for interview. Hear the phrase "recurring income". Without time to blink I stand up, wheel on the spot and walk out. When all the job offers you get are pyramid schemes, you start to get pissed off at them

adi_pie: MetricFurlong, it's tied for my favourite in the series.

TrakoGamer starts kickstarter for $0.50 to see an elephant jump a fence

Okipokute gnaws on chat

MetricFurlong: adi_pie: as with me

TrakoGamer: got this from a friend: 02"The goal of Computer Science is to build something that will at least last until we're finished building it"01

Atifexe imagines chat tastes pretty unusual

Anubis169: Diserasta: Pyramid schemes are illegal

MetricFurlong: although the game it's tied with is Lost Odyssey

Anubis169: you mean "Multi-level Management Scheme"

TrakoGamer: MLMS, Inc.

Ravynn pats Okipokute

Anaerin: "Inverse Funnel" scheme.

adi_pie: All_Mankind, no electricity? Like the 2 entire machine cities in 6? Or the Megalopolises in 7 and 8, or that other machine city in 9, and the whole planet of andvanced tech? Or the numerous machines in 10? Admit it you're just a road racist.

Diserasta: @Anubis169 Same thing. I wouldn't mind if it was possible to actually make cash, but it's designed for the peeps down low to fail utterly. Hence, pyramid scheme. I'd (reluctantly) call it marketing if you had a greater than 0.4% chance of success

All_Mankind: reasons being lonely is sometimes super awesome: if you don't have ten friends to sell out even if you wanted to you're immune to pyramid schemes

Anubis169: ya i know it's the same thing

TrakoGamer: my friend keeps falling for them... I'm like save that money and just move to another place

Anubis169: hmm...

TrakoGamer: sunk hundreds into GRQ stuff

Anubis169: brb 2sec

Diserasta: @Anubis169 Yeah. I figured. Just kinda like about how hard it is to get a job in this damned country. *sigh* At least I'll be back at uni by december.

TrakoGamer: the only person making money in the get rich quick schee is the one selling it

TrakoGamer: diserasta quick, make a GRQ scheme and buy blocks of late-night access tv

All_Mankind: and yes, Vector and Figaro stretches the credulity of what steam engines could make, but i imagine it's due to the unfettered resources of the world's greatest nation bent on making war machines and an unparallelled engineering genius, respectively

PMAvers: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (1:21 from now)

Anaerin: I half expected the credit crawl to be interrupted. Was disappointed. 2/10, would probably not watch again.

TrakoGamer: I missed the last two xcom broadcasts... who named me Sledgeham? >.<

TrakoGamer: caught in the replay

Anaerin: trakogamer: The game did. There wasn't enough space for "Sledgehammer", so you got "Sledgeham"

adi_pie: All_Mankind, admit your Road racism, everyone in or near LRR needs one video game element to be racist against.

All_Mankind: i do dream of the future when we have teleportation and the roads are overgrown and forgotten

Anaerin: I call dibs on Racist Racism.

TrakoGamer curses firaxis

adi_pie: I'm racist against Sports Games.

TrakoGamer is an EA racist

adi_pie: Except for the golfing ones, they're still people.

Diserasta: I'm racist against racists

Anaerin: diserasta: Oh, like me!

adi_pie: You must hate Alex' stream then.

Anaerin: I do. I make sure I watch it to monitor his racism levels.

Ravynn: Hey Anaerin, you put on a full album and we have 4 djs in the queue now

Diserasta: @Adi_pie I'm *also* a skeleton racist, so I try to turn a blind eye to Alex

adi_pie: Diserasta, you must hate yourself then. Being a racist hating racist.

MetricFurlong: I'm racist against puppies

MetricFurlong: and baby animals in general

TrakoGamer: adi_pie, that sorta logic doesn't apply to racists

TrakoGamer: well, real ones, not sure about LRR types

Diserasta: @Adi_pie Pretty much. But self loathing is pretty on par for uni students and people my age in general.

adi_pie: As a University student I can see that.

TrakoGamer: Diserasta, try the youtube assignment trick once, if you haven't

The_Ocean_who_Subbed: as a just graduated uni student, I get that too...

TrakoGamer: write something completely wrong about a topic, and wait for others to do your assignment.

TrakoGamer: XD

MetricFurlong: well, there's self-loathing and then there's self-loathing

TrakoGamer: and then there's fear, and being in Las Vegas

adi_pie: MetricFurlong, go to Canada, if Cameron is to be believed, you can get a great high clubbing baby seals.

TrakoGamer: how is babby formed?

The_Ocean_who_Subbed: Also hi everyone.

MetricFurlong: by which I mean, there's not liking yourself and then there's, y'know, the clinical depression end of things

Ravynn: Hey The_Ocean_who_subbed

MetricFurlong: hello Ocean

TrakoGamer: ohai

Anaerin: I'm strongly against clubbing baby seals. The loud bass is hell on their barely-developed ears.

MetricFurlong: indeed

Diserasta: @Metricfurlong I get the latter of the two on occassion, but mostly just dislike myself.

Diserasta: @Adi_pie I want to try that one.

MetricFurlong: plus they're mostly too young to understand things like membership fees and comittments

Arakasi01: I club my baby seals the old fashioned way, with dead human babies.

Diserasta: @Arakasi01 Cadavers of any kind work.

adi_pie: I can understand the self-loathing bit, but I've gone past it for about 3 years now, I'm in no hurry to go back to that mind set anytime soon.

Arakasi01: Sure, but only babies give that perfect feel.

Frage069: I got the t shirt http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/stop-clubbing-baby-seals

Nerdshome: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (1:09 from now)

adi_pie: Goat Nunchuks are my favorite way of getting dead babies to club baby seals with.

Nerdshome: that...was an odd comment to log into....

MetricFurlong: that's chat for you

LoadingReadyRun: you guys want a fan stream to kill time? twitch.tv/TheFilthyCasualPlays

Frage069: You really have to be there from the start

LoadingReadyRun: A fan we met at Escapist Expo last couple years

Diserasta: @Adi_pie Baa baaa baaa *crunch*

adi_pie: Nerdshome, you should have expected something strange in this chat room.

Nerdshome: @Adi_pie I always do, but usually there is at least a bit of context

Nerdshome: @Diserasta wasn't that from a feed dump with Cam?

Diserasta: I would be streaming myself, if Australian wasn't so shitty.

Diserasta: @Nerdshome Yup

CaffeinatedLemur: cantwearhats "Let's Nostalgia: Hats Plays BattleZone" playing BattleZone is LIVE: http://www.twitch.tv/cantwearhats

Arakasi01: I'm in Australia and I still stream. If only barely, and with trillions of dropped frames.

Anaerin: diserasta: Any particular Australian, or all of them combined?

adi_pie: Nerdshome, use your imagination, also add Cam's comment on getting a pretty good high from clubbing baby seals.

LoadingReadyRun: Okay didn't realize there was laready a fan stream going

DoktorNik: we still love you

Nerdshome: ah i see now

Arakasi01: I just finished streaming Wasteland 2 a few minutes ago too.

adi_pie: Who do we still love? Graham? Alex? Baxter?

DoktorNik: I love most people still

LoadingReadyRun: G

DoktorNik: G would be included, but to be honest, i think i love G's facial hair more than G

adi_pie: This love brought to you by the letter "G".

esperchld: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (1:02 from now)

Diserasta: @Anaerin I am a particular Australian, not the Borg.

All_Mankind: G is for gravity, that makes the universe behave as if in love

Ravynn: G makes the universe go round. Literally

All_Mankind: yeop

esperchld: Diserasta, is your name Bruce? I heard that was the name of all Aussies

Diserasta: @Esperchld But you see, I'm an immigrant. My name is hardly Australian.

DoktorNik: so behave as if it's in love? feel attracted to something while trying to maintain any semblance of self control?

esperchld: How have you taken to dealing with the drop bears?

Diserasta: @Esperchld A big knife

All_Mankind: no, just being pulled towards the object of attraction by a force as inexplicable as inexorable

Asoxa: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (1:00 from now)

Diserasta: @Arakasi01 I may have to try again, but when I stream the frame drop is horrendous, and if I dial down the bitrate, it gets unreadably bad quality.

All_Mankind: (the object being every other object relative to a given objectt)

cyberpunkpilot: hey everone

cyberpunkpilot: everyone doing well i hope

Diserasta: @Cyberpunkpilot Heyo

esperchld: Diserasta, that would be ideal for making it look like one is good at shooters, no?

esperchld: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0Cg << this is what I pictured when you said your name wasn't bruce

Diserasta: @Esperchld I play very few shooters. Mostly WoT, War Thunder, War Game and RPGs of various kinds (Western and Japanese)

MetricFurlong: Hey CPP

cyberpunkpilot: what are you all up too

esperchld: RPGs are fun

Diserasta: @Cyberpunkpilot Not sleeping and stuff

Arakasi01: Yeah my stream quality is pretty awful too.

Diserasta: @Esperchld They are

esperchld: Real life sucks, so fantasy is the way to go

Diserasta: @Esperchld I dunno. Life can be pretty interesting, just fantasy can be interesting in ways life can't.

cyberpunkpilot: i had the weirdest dream last night

All_Mankind: life is what happens when we're busy debating the difference between fantasy and sci-fi

esperchld: Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sun-god robes on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little pickles at you?

MetricFurlong: weirder than having to rescue the cast of Ocarina of Time from the evil machinations of John Cleese?

Diserasta: @All_mankind Any sufficiently advanced technology....

cyberpunkpilot: me Stephen king and a farmer couple seen bright vain like colors in the sky from which a camera comes floating down in to the house. as it turns out 32 millilon light years ago a fugitive from there planet escaped. and we had to fill a well up with lava to stop him for reasons.

All_Mankind: the best answer i've heard is "fantasy has trees on the cover, sci-fi has rivets"

esperchld: horror is where the good stuff is

All_Mankind: i concur

esperchld: monsters and maidens and maidens that are also monsters and monsters that are also maidens

All_Mankind: i fancy myself a horror writer, mostly

esperchld: I wrote something a long time ago, it was fun.

cyberpunkpilot: everytime i try to write something i remember i can't write and stop

Diserasta: @All_mankind @Esperchld I find I'm more of a fantasy person myself. I kinda dislike horror as the characters have to be helpless, which bothers me. I don't mind writing stories where the characters are outmatched and most of them will die terrible deaths, but they have to actually have at least the effort to try. Also, I find it difficult to instill dread through writing.

Arakasi01: The mark of the true writer is to recognise that and keep writing anyway.

esperchld: Well, it was more like I tried to connect my dreams together into a coherant story. It was sort of weird science-fantasy horror post-apoc thing. Gods and demons and humans, heaven and hell, and purgatory and the falling of heaven into hell.

Arakasi01: Mostly because by definition 'writer' is someone who writes with some regularity.

MetricFurlong: I write because it makes me moderately less crazy until it doesn't

All_Mankind: my brother constantly talks about the epic fantasy books he wants to write but then it doesn't come out perfectly at the first try and he quits within one page

cyberpunkpilot: thank you arakasi

All_Mankind: practice is overrated, eh

esperchld: I forget why i stopped writing, I used to do it for years.

Diserasta: @All_mankind I've been meaning to finish the novella (which turning into a novel right quick. 100 or so pages) I started back in [middle school]

All_Mankind: odaw.blogspot.com <-i'll let my work speak for itself :3

MetricFurlong: rule one of writing: you're going to suck, but in time you'll start sucking less

All_Mankind: man that was some slick, unnoticable advertising

All_Mankind: i thought the first rule was "you make your own rules"

Arakasi01: What advertising?

esperchld: I found creating the world to be the most enjoyable part. I kept notebooks of the stuff

MetricFurlong: same with most creative arts, really

MetricFurlong: the key point is, it's better that you're aware your stuff sucks if it sucks

esperchld: "In the begining, there was All_Mankind, and lo he looked upon the void and saw it lacking. And so he created a spark ..."

cyberpunkpilot: i really want to get into tablet drawing

TodayIamRee: !next America/Chicago

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 04:00 PM CDT (46m from now)

MetricFurlong: than to write crap and not realise it's crap

cyberpunkpilot: i think al man kind is a lady is she not

Diserasta: @All_mankind I'll bookmark that for later. Right now my sleep deprived brain is insisting the grammar is too horrible, though I'm sure I'm just over-estimating how bad it is

TodayIamRee: Thanks, LRRbot

Diserasta: Wow... that was offensive @All_mankind Ignore me

esperchld: cyberpunkpilot, those Wacom tablet monitors are sweet as ***

cyberpunkpilot: the thing that makes me doubt my self is i can't draw normally

All_Mankind: i have put less than complete effort into the translation. . .

Arakasi01: I've taken a few creative writing classes at university, but that's about all I write for.

Ceris75: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (45m from now)

esperchld: cyberpunkpilot, and I think I've seen a laptop that used one (you could fold the thing around to make it a tablet or use it like a laptop)

Diserasta: @Cyberpunkpilot Neither can I, but when you can't sleep and you have 6 hours till the sun comes up, you can push something out (it's about persistence)

Ceris75: Checkpoint time come on grab your friends.

Anaerin: esperchld: A convertible? There's a few of them. Most "Tablet PCs" (before they went touchscreen) had a Wacom digitizer.

TodayIamRee: We'll go to very...checkpoint lands

cyberpunkpilot: yea i often tell me self i can learn on a tablet first.

TodayIamRee: With Kathleen De Vere and Graham...the human

esperchld: creative writing is having a research paper due in a few hours, and you haven't started yet.

Ceris75: With Graham the Stark and Kathleen the Kitty

Anaerin: And you can pick up a Wacom Bamboo for cheap if you want something to start with. Or just go all-out and get yourself a Cintiq.

esperchld: Graham should get a picture of an angry raven to use

TodayIamRee: the fun will never end (until 3:00PM PDT for GPLP)

TodayIamRee: it's checkpoint+!

Diserasta: @All_mankind I figured that was the case. Sorry if I caused any offense. I am beyond tired.

Arakasi01: Are they done with Shovel Knight yet?

All_Mankind: that's fine

esperchld: Arakasi01, yes, Shield Knight was the final boss

cyberpunkpilot: i hear wacom bamboo is a good one

All_Mankind: if you feel bad about it you can make it up to me by reading

Arakasi01: Cool, because I couldn't stand watching that style of game. It bored me to death tbh.

Viking_Sleyheron: Hello chat and good evening to you all

MetricFurlong: evening Viking

esperchld: Bamboos are pretty good, the current line is on par or better than the intuos I use

Diserasta: @All_mankind Sure. Not like I got anything better to do (Actually, I should be doing a write up for the next Ars Magica session, but that can wait)

Arakasi01: Oh, I've just noticed I'm unsubbed. Better sub through Checkpoint

All_Mankind: i do actually have a great need for criticism

All_Mankind: like, i've thought my grammar has been slipping for a year or more, but no one's said anything so i just try to not be too self-critical to get anything done

cyberpunkpilot: in theory i could learn on a tablet first though

esperchld: cyberpunkpilot, I suggest making sure the tablet you choose is the right size for you. There is too big and too small with this. Also, I highly recommend Wacom over other brands.

cyberpunkpilot: i will make sure thank you

esperchld: Even though they are more expensive, they are usually well worth the extra expense. I haven't run into a case where it wasn't.

All_Mankind: sometimes i forget completely how to make word readables in the english

cyberpunkpilot: that extra little bit of money often helps

olivias_bulge: get a wacom ther is no other

All_Mankind: i've had a wacom tablet for ten years

All_Mankind: never needed another mouse

cyberpunkpilot: thank you all for your great advice

esperchld: olivias_bulge, pretty much. Everyone who has used my Intuos after using anything non-wacom has been at minimum quite jealous. most have bought similar and not looked back

esperchld: All_Mankind, you should try playing MMOs and FPS games like that

olivias_bulge: i just upgrade to a cintiq its the business. however bamboos are terrible

All_Mankind: i have tried

All_Mankind: but the point is wacom makes things to last

esperchld: olivias_bulge, well bamboos are the bottom end of their line.

olivias_bulge: i actually like a standard mouse for maya/3ds max

All_Mankind: on top of being the gold standard of the industry i mean

olivias_bulge: or in game engines with lots of menus

Bratmon: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (35m from now)

esperchld: All_Mankind, I know people that are still using the same Wacom tablet for, I think 21 years now.

Diserasta: @All_mankind Immediately obvious is that in English (and most Romance languages actually), most writing is in the past tense, and if a piece is present tense, declarative forms are used. "WORDS" he asks. or asks the man who obviously looks like a wizard. Or asks the evil wizard. Another example in the next paragraph, "Jenny follows instructions from a written list as she" should be Jenny follows *the* instructions from a (possibly the here as well, depending on itention) written list...

cyberpunkpilot: any one here watch vlogbrothers

Diserasta: @Cyberpunkpilot On occasion

All_Mankind: that might be helpful, Diserasta, thanks

cyberpunkpilot: im kinda excited to see if john does his new punishment

esperchld: All_Mankind, your English seems better than a lot of people's I have had to read.

senshi5609: ,

senshi5609: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (31m from now)

cyberpunkpilot: soooon

All_Mankind: i am a qualified English genius after all

cyberpunkpilot: well you are all the man kind

Diserasta: @Esperchld @All_mankind Esper is correct. It's very understandable, but there's the occasional blib that says it's not from a native speaker.

Diserasta: @Cyberpunkpilot I dunno, if you took the average of all mankind's ability to write English, it'd probably be pretty terrible.

All_Mankind: i'm not the average of mankind, i'm ALL mankind

cyberpunkpilot: lol so netflix has a URL for spoilers now

esperchld: I'm not really one to be correcting people's writing either. I failed English so badly for so very long. And this is a casual setting anyways.

All_Mankind: including the best

esperchld: What about All_Manmean?

cyberpunkpilot: yea if you read youtube comments their english is horrible. its only slightly better then mine

esperchld: cyberpunkpilot, and then there are drunk texts

cyberpunkpilot: we can't forget them, even though we may want to

esperchld: especially after we send them

Ceris75: Youtube comments are like assholes..... full of ***.

Diserasta: @Esperchld I passed English with a decent mark, but creative has always been my passion, so I'm critical of creative writing, both my own and others' .

esperchld: I see stars and I think ... ooo I get to choose what word goes here. AD LIBS!

Viking_Sleyheron: Youtube comments are the finst comedy this side of the internet!

cyberpunkpilot: yea i sent a flirt text to a female boss once it wasn't for her

Viking_Sleyheron: As long as you enjoy VERY black comedy

cyberpunkpilot: well besides LRR

esperchld: Diserasta, I fit that engineer stereotype. WAY strong in math/science, way weak in social

Ceris75: Youtube comments KILLED MY FAMILY!!!

esperchld: Youtube comments killed my braincells.

MetricFurlong: youtube comments killed my faith in the species as a whole

Ceris75: ^

esperchld: Why can we not disable them

All_Mankind: but yeah, i like to ignore the rule of "he said" in favor of "said he" when it seems appropriate for poetry

esperchld: MetricFurlong, other thinks killed that for me long ago

Anaerin: Youtube comments made me install AlienTube. Life has been much better since.

esperchld: grammar isn't as important for poetry as it is for story. rhythm and imagery are the most important.

Diserasta: @Esperchld Funnily enough, my science is at best acceptable, as is my math. My real strength is logic and comp sci. (yay for internal consistency). No idea why I have any skill with creative, but it's a thing that happened. Might of been that my parents encouraged me to read to learn English faster, and I took it to mean 100 pages a night.

Viking_Sleyheron: MEtricfurlong... oh Message boards did THAT for me back in the 90's. Perhaps that why I only see fun now in youtube crap.

esperchld: Diserasta, I am rather slow at reading. It takes me forever to make it through a book anymore.

Diserasta: @Esperchld O

MetricFurlong: esperchld: yes, but 'Youtube comments would have killed my faith in the species as a whole if I'd still had any by that point' doesn't have quite the same ring to it

All_Mankind: i like to think my writing will frustrate future scholars who try to determine if i was being too lazy to grammar or petic. . .

All_Mankind: poetic, even

Diserasta: @Esperchld I'm slowing down myself. Not much time to read when uni kicks in, but I can still manage to finish a book (400ish pages) in a week or so of reading each night.

esperchld: The last book I finished took me like four months

MetricFurlong: I try to read about 50-100 pages a day

MetricFurlong: but that's sort of a 'work' thing

Diserasta: @Metricfurlong It's great stress relief, and stops me from going insane at uni/work/18hourdayWHATSTHAT

esperchld: MetricFurlong, If I had any faith in humanity, years of browsing 4chan killed it long ago

MetricFurlong: esperchld: I stayed away from 4chan, which was probably a wise decision

CptnFalafel: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (20m from now)

MetricFurlong: if I had to pinpoint when my faith in humanity went though, it was when I first encountered rape apologetics

All_Mankind: love me the most when i deserve it the least

Anaerin: Ah, 4chan. The Mos Eisley Spaceport of the internet.

MetricFurlong: of the "well, it was deserved, her living the life she did" variety

KingJamesENigma: Hey-o people.

Diserasta: @Kingjamesenigma Yo

MetricFurlong: evening KingJames

esperchld: evening

KingJamesENigma: just saw 4 chan being refered to as The Mos Eisley Spaceport - im sure that its denizens would be pleased.

Anaerin: kingjamesenigma: Probably.

esperchld: MetricFurlong, I'm not sure how someone can justify that some one deserves that.

All_Mankind: heh, you know what's at least as telling as a person using the phrase "not a racist, but"?

All_Mankind: "no one deserves that, but"

MetricFurlong: yeah

Ceris75: I think we can all agree the Internet has done a FANTASTIC job of killing our faith in humanity.

Diserasta: @All_mankind I've heard convincing things after those buts on ocassion though...

MetricFurlong: Ceris75: no argument there

Anubis169: woo, title update

Anaerin: Not meaning to agree with Hitler but...

Diserasta: Woot

KingJamesENigma: faith is for fools. perhaps it shouldn't be.

Viking_Sleyheron: Actually Ceris75, it has compeltely confirmed my faith in humanity... but I was fairly depressed and pessimistic to start with

All_Mankind: hoho

Diserasta: @Anaerin He just had the wrong target group.

Diserasta: And before someone bites my head off, I am joking here

MetricFurlong: hey, don't be so harsh on Hitler. After all, he did kill Hitler

Anaerin: Well, as long as we're not getting into Tom Swifties...

All_Mankind: just so no one else would get to

adi_pie: Diserasta, I don't know he seemed to get his point across quite efficiently.

All_Mankind: so he'd never have to answer for his actions

esperchld: Tom Switf books were fun

KingJamesENigma: @Metricfurlong, i actually love your arguement

Ceris75 is kind of hungry but dosen't know what he wants.

MetricFurlong: full confession, I did pinch it from someone else

KingJamesENigma: aww

qrpth: !next Europe/Snorsh

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 11:59 PM SnST (13m from now)

MetricFurlong: err...

esperchld: There is only one answer to this hollow emptiness that fills my soul, left by the voiding of my faith in my fellow man ..

MetricFurlong: cake?

esperchld: METAL \m/

KingJamesENigma: booze

Viking_Sleyheron: Metal cake?

Ceris75: im thinking pizza

Diserasta: crack cocaine

KingJamesENigma: sex, drugs and rock and roll?

All_Mankind: at least he died doing what he loved, killing people

esperchld: I don't always listen to Slayer, but when I do, so do my neighbors

Ceris75: yeah pizza is sounding better and better to me

MetricFurlong: I've already had pizza today

MetricFurlong: Ice cream looking good though

RMills90: @Esper: I find that that void is best filled by Feed Dump, personally

Ceris75: Ohhhh Ice cream I didnt think of that

Ravynn: MetricFurlong you just reminded me that I have pumpkin pie and vanilla ice cream...

esperchld: Actually, hitler didn't like killing, he was very pro-animal rights IIRC

MetricFurlong: Ravynn: sounds deece

Ceris75: cookies and cream here Bitches

Diserasta: I've made a terrible mistake. Spent the morning de-rusting and sharpening a knife. Touch eye. Even after washing my hands, I now have metal in my eye

Anaerin: I used to have great fun at home - The neighbours used to play rap silly-loud on their home HiFi systems. So I'd set up the 20KW On-stage PA system I had and play Wagner at ear-crushing volume.

KingJamesENigma: I have a half box of wine (roughly 1 and half bottles) it wont be enough

koizom: herp derp

esperchld: I was listenig to Wagner yesterday

Diserasta: @Kingjamesenigma Now I want booze

Diserasta: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (9m from now)

senshi5609: !next

Diserasta: Okay, enough time to make some absinthe

Ceris75 is getting ice cream (pizza for later)

Diserasta: brb

esperchld: Opera and metal ... now we need to mix them

Diserasta: @Esperchld Nightwish?

Anaerin: esperchld: So Apocalyptica?

Frage069: Hmmm I might make a blue lagoon, why not

esperchld: Diserasta, I was thinking Rhapsody of Fire

koizom: Contemplating whether to re-sub today or save it for some another stream

KingJamesENigma: @Diserasta, i always want booze

MortifiedThePenguin: Frage069: A smart drinker I see

Diserasta: @Esperchld Everytime someone mentions them I can't help but think of Village of Dwarves, even though it's by someone else

Anaerin: koizom: Well, today you'd get the triple threat of Kathleen, Paul and Graham.

koizom: yah

MortifiedThePenguin: I don't believe in resubbing

koizom: Might as well

esperchld: Diserasta, no, Rhapsody did Village of Dwarves

All_Mankind: i resubbed automatically, thinking it would give me the option of having the message show up later. . .oh well

esperchld: Its on Power of the Dragonflame

MortifiedThePenguin: I subbed on the second week, and just let it repeat

esperchld: erm, no its on Dawn of Victory ><

Frage069: Man that drink is way too easy to make, when you know what you are doing

CaptainEnder7: Likewise. I signed up early on and have just been auto-renewing

Briars_the_fox: i usually leave mine auto resubbing. but sometimes i have to drop it from auto because i cant afford it the next month

Frage069: Mmm so good

Ceris75 is now armed with ice cream.

All_Mankind: it's always worth saving resubs for mondays :3

koizom: I was experiencing minus-dollars for a week or two on my bank account, so I couldn't let it re-sub on auto

Nightvalien28: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (5m from now)

Ceris75: WE GET SIGNAL?

ReverseCreations: well then, this weeks vid both weird and hilarious!

LRRTwitter: @loadingreadyrun> CheckPoint || Gaming News and Commentary: http://t.co/g1qD3iUfAD

Mowdownjoe: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (3m from now)

Ceris75: WE GET SIGNAL

Ravynn: Red Rider, Standing by!

Sarah_Serinde: I love that Graham is the one who actually edited the video

Frage069: Twitter is weird

MetricFurlong: Red Planet standing by

esperchld: Last time I tried to sub during a stream I was particularly enjoying, it was the zoorace one. I couldn't stop laughing my *** off long enough to sub.

Anubis169: aaand LIVE

Anaerin: Red Rover, Red Rover, Standing By, Over.

Anubis169 bounces

adi_pie: Red Rover, Red Rover standing by.

Zibanitu: Gold planet standing by.

adi_pie: Anaerin, ninj'd

senshi5609: !next

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 02:00 PM PDT (3m from now)

Anubis169: Red Jackal standing by...

esperchld: Goldbeard standing by

billthecrazycat:

Erbkaiser: Yay, notification was sent on time for a change

afoersch: we get signal

Ceris75: NORMAL VIEW

Camthelion: Woo

esperchld: NOORMAL VIEW!

AdmiralMemo: Time for some points to be checked?

Camthelion: Hi chat

afoersch: so, who else had a sweet ktk prerelease deck?

MetricFurlong: hi cam

Anubis169: hi Camthelion

adi_pie: Hey, Camthelion

DiamondTiki: Hai gais

D3fr0st5: yo yo yo

DirgeNovak: CHECK DEM POINTS

Foxmar320: hello chat

Ceris75: Hello everyone

GifLordSimon: i haven't watched a checkpoint live in forever

afoersch: i'm pretty proud of mine: http://imgur.com/O1iecUO

Anubis169: and everybody else

GifLordSimon: i'm very excited

Pyrelight: Hoihio!

Sampy104: Wait, Graham actually edited today's video? MY IMMERSION!!!

esperchld: ack! its pyrelight!

Anubis169: heya there Simon

Prospero101: Time to check all the points! It's Checkpoint time!

Jwiley129: Hail, Chat! Hail, LRR!

LetsHaveToast: HELLO FRIENDS

Ravynn: Hey Jwiley129!

Romangoro: Hiiii chat!

GifLordSimon: my doctor said i should get my points checked so this is a good deal

Mangledpixel: boop

Hiramas: sooo lets hope the internet here is streaming compatible tonight. good evening runners

Gamingduck32: Hello

Jwiley129: Hey Ravynn!

Ceris75: Let us "get it on'

Anubis169: yo

MehallD: good evening fllow Runners

Lord_Hosk: Guys guys guys... its TACO TIME!

VmKid: Engage CheckPoint Turbines...

Corland: hi everybody

Durugai: Hai chat!

esperchld: Ceris75, what do you mean by it

MehallD: *fellow

AdmiralMemo: Ever since I became a KS backer. I have had trouble when people on Monday say "Today's video"

York_Blackwood: Jwiley129 Hail

emberBecky: hello all

Lord_Hosk: wait.. no checkpoint tim

GifLordSimon: Hey A169. nice sword

Jwiley129: Lord_hosk, but it isn't Taco Tuesday....

Kthanid: Afternoon chat!

Jondare: memo i know right?

Nightvalien28: good afternoon everyone

HummingbirdJames: Red Leader standing by

Ceris75: Esperchild you know "it"

Anubis169:

LetsHaveToast: TOASTY ToasTy

Prospero101: @Admiralmemo What's the weather like in your ivory tower?

VmKid: So apparently today's Nintendo's 125th anniversary. No that isn't a typo.

malc: !next Europe/Snorsh

LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ at Mon 11:59 PM SnST (1m from now)

Jwiley129: Hail York_blackwood

AdmiralMemo: Prospero101: Foggy

SmilingWorlock: hi

esperchld: VmKid, thats 5^3

Camthelion: How is chat today?

SohNata: Ladies and Gentelmen, people of all ages and identities...LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLets get (loading) ready to Chekpoiiiiiiiiiiint!

Anubis169: getting better now that the stream's here

malc: gooood evening chat

GifLordSimon: I liked Nintendo back when they made boardgames and shady hotels. #2cool4u

Anubis169: had a bad day

Jwiley129 checks to see if points are checked

Nightvalien28 huggles Anubis169

malc hugs anubis169

MehallD hugs anubis169

Jwiley129 hands Anubis169 something he likes

Camthelion: Aww, that sucks Anubis. Hope LRR makes it better.

AdmiralMemo: Anubis169: Time for good day with 7 hours of streaming

Diserasta: I return. Just in time too, with a bowl of hot oats (mmmm, breakfast food) and a Campari (because I make healthy life choices)

Ceris75 gurds his loins

Anaerin: I liked Nintendo when they made Pachinko machines.

Anubis169: hey!

Prospero101: Ladies and gentlemen are you ready to HUUUUUUUUUMBLE yourself before God! Please welcome His Holiness the Pope!

n_mandrag: Good evening you chatty gentlepeople

VmKid: Heeey everybody!

Camthelion: MmmHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMM

emberBecky: heyyy

MetricFurlong: G&K!

Stooky_Bill: Hey Guys

billthecrazycat: Hey Graham and Kathleen and Doctor Nick!

Diserasta: Heeeyyyyy guys

Ceris75: Hi Guys

CaptainEnder7: Hi there!

Frage069: Hi guys

Nightvalien28: heeeeey

Laserbeaks_Fury: Heyyyyy Checkpoint!

DiamondTiki: HAI GAIS!

Foxmar320: hello Graham and Kathleen

Viking_Sleyheron: Oh Hai LRR!

HummingbirdJames: I liked Nintendo when they released Smash 4

afoersch: ooooooooooooh hey

AdmiralMemo: Love that wiggle head.

Mowdownjoe: HAI GUYS

Prospero101: What is up, party people, in the place to be!

ChaosPainter: WOW It is my First time here mostly because it is like 11pm here

cyberpunkpilot: Hey you guys

KingJamesENigma: Hey o

DoktorNik: Hai!

AdmiralMemo: DoktorNik?

OneirosGolem: Listening to a podcast, suddenly double Kathleen audio

Muffincider: Hey Graham, Paul and Kathleen

adi_pie: Hey, Graham, Kathleen, and Ghost Paul.

andersgeek: Jeez, Kathleen. That was loud...

Zaz_TV: Inflammable means flammable etc